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- Info-Hams Digest Tue, 21 Jun 94 Volume 94 : Issue 687
-
- Today's Topics:
- * SpaceNews 13-Jun-94 *
- Do US Fieldday stns seek QSOs wid EU?
- IPS Daily Report - 20 June 94
- Need address
- QSL COLLECTION
- QSL info for FK8GS?
- Sign me up!
- Tech. Question Pool
- Transmission Line Impedance: Why so many? (2 msgs)
- You know its time to retire from the hobby when....
-
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-
- Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 00:37:42 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!icon!greg@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: * SpaceNews 13-Jun-94 *
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Anybody know if AO-27 is still on it's weekend-only schedule? I haven't
- heard it recently, and I also heard some folks talking on AO-21 last night
- saying it was not available at all (weekends included).
-
- Any idea on when it will be operating on the amateur bands again?
-
- Greg KD6KGW
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Jun 1994 01:50:01 -0500
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Do US Fieldday stns seek QSOs wid EU?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hi field day fans,
-
- Guess the CW field day is getting closer. During the EU field day
- stations are desperately looking for DX stations for multipliers.
-
- Is this the same during the US field day?
- What should I know if I want to distribute points to FDers in the
- U.S.? What is the exchange code? RST/NR?
-
- 73 de IK2RMZ
- (please e-mail a copy of your reply to martin@dac.isei.jrc.it)
-
- --
- Martin Zurn ( martin@dac.ise.jrc.it )
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 23:12:43 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!msuinfo!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!metro!ipso!rwc@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: IPS Daily Report - 20 June 94
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT
- ISSUED AT 20/2330Z JUNE 1994 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
- FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY.
- SUMMARY FOR 20 JUNE AND FORECAST UP TO 23 JUNE
-
- No IPS Disturbance Warning is current
- -----------------------------------------------------------
-
- 1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
- Activity: very low
-
- Flares: none.
-
- Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 076/014
-
- 1B. SOLAR FORECAST
- 21 June 22 June 23 June
- Activity Very low Very low Very low
- Fadeouts None expected None expected None expected
-
- Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 073/009
-
- 1C. SOLAR COMMENT
- None.
- -----------------------------------------------------------
-
- 2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
- Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: quiet to unsettled
-
- Estimated Indices : A K Observed A Index 19 June
- Learmonth 13 3332 3233
- Fredericksburg 15 20
- Planetary 12 24
-
- Observed Kp for 19 June: 2246 5333
-
-
- 2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
- DATE Ap CONDITIONS
- 21 Jun 18 Quiet to unsettled.
- 22 Jun 15 Quiet to unsettled.
- 23 Jun 10 Quiet to unsettled.
-
- 2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT
- None.
- 3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
- LATITUDE BAND
- DATE LOW MIDDLE HIGH
- 20 Jun normal normal fair-normal
- PCA Event : None.
- 3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
- LATITUDE BAND
- DATE LOW MIDDLE HIGH
- 21 Jun normal normal normal
- 22 Jun normal normal normal
- 23 Jun normal normal normal
- 3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT
- NONE.
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------
-
- 4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
- MUFs at Sydney were near predicted monthly values.
-
- Observed T index for 20 June: 38
-
- Predicted Monthly T Index for June is 30.
-
- 4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
- DATE T-index MUFs
- 21 Jun 35 Near predicted monthly values.
- 22 Jun 30 Near predicted monthly values.
- 23 Jun 30 Near predicted monthly values.
-
-
- 4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT
- None.
-
-
-
-
- --
- IPS Regional Warning Centre, Sydney |IPS Radio and Space Services
- email: rwc@ips.oz.au fax: +61 2 4148331 |PO Box 5606
- RWC Duty Forecaster tel: +61 2 4148329 |West Chatswood NSW 2057
- Recorded Message tel: +61 2 4148330 |AUSTRALIA
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 19 Jun 94 20:46:00 +0000
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!swidir.switch.ch!newsfeed.ACO.net!Austria.EU.net!hp4at!st!z2!n310!f22!p44!Wolf.Harranth@network.
- Subject: Need address
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Can anyone help with the address of
- KA6UXR Dr. Alexander Comfort ???
- 94 Callbook address (121 S Evergreen, Ventura CA 9303) is not correct.
-
- Tnx,
- 73 de Wolf OE1WHC
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 19 Jun 94 20:37:00 +0000
- From: library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!swidir.switch.ch!newsfeed.ACO.net!Austria.EU.net!hp4at!st!z2!n310@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
- Subject: QSL COLLECTION
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- QSL COLLECTION, an International Curatorium with headquarters in Vienna,
- Austria, is the world's biggest collection of about 500.000 QSLs and
- Awards of broadcasting stations and radio amateurs. We collect, keep
- archivves, research, make available to publishers, and exhibit in public
- verifications of radio reception from the early days up to to-day. Our
- voluntary work is financed and supported by sponsors all over the world.
- QSLs are acquired by bequests, from club stations, QSL managers,
- DXpeditions and individuals, sending those cards they no longer wish to
- keep. We also welcome declarations of dedication at a later stage and try
- to fill gaps by extensive monitoring and by circulating lists of missing
- QSLs. If you would like to help us or are interested in our activities,
- please ask for further information.
-
- Wolf Harranth OE1WHC, Curator
-
- QSL COLLECTION c/o Radio Austria International, A-1136 Vienna, Austria /
- Europe
- Echomail: FIDO SHORTWAVE, SHORTWAVE.GER, DARC.GER
- Internet REC.RADIO.SHORTWAVE,
- REC.RADIO.AMATEUR.MISC
- Netmail: wolf_harranth @ p44.f22.n310.z2.fidonet.org
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 20 Jun 94 19:43:46 PDT
- From: pa.dec.com!wrksys.enet.dec.com!reisert@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: QSL info for FK8GS?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I worked FK8GS on 19 Feb. 1994 on 40 CW during the ARRL DX contest.
-
- No one on the "East Coast Megacluster" [KO0U] can dig up any QSL
- information. Can you?
-
- Please reply to me directly.
-
- 73 - Jim AD1C
- reisert@mlo.dec.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 02:02:24 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!iat.holonet.net!pcappbbs!mike.conti@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Sign me up!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hey Ron,
- How are you doing? I now have an address that works! So you and
- your buddy Hugh can send me more mail.
-
- Well, was the move back worth it? Are you still having fun? Is the
- new job still a challenge for you?
-
- In a nut shell, same 'ol' same 'ol around here. I'm changing
- stations at the end of the month. Going to Palos Verdes Estates. Less
- Butthead people, less runs, more time to study. I am getting ready to
- upgrade this system. I was thinking about a 486 DX4 100mhgz, but I
- don't want to melt down! So I think that I will go with a 486 DX2 66.
- I already put another Hard Drive in. I kept the original and added a
- second. I got a hold of a used, for two weeks, Conner 240 meg. for
- $60.00. I could'nt pass it up. That is my windows drive. I am using
- that to slowly make the transition from DOS to Windows. The key word is
- "SLOWLY". I still do not like the windows enviroment. So much of the
- screen is wasted on the menu and toolbars. I know, everyone tells me
- the same thing. Get a bigger monitor. If all of tha junk wasn't there,
- I wouldn't need a bigger monitor! Well, enough of that.
-
- John bought a Flat in downtown Denver. He moved in last week. He
- is now truely a Denver YUPPIE. He seems to like it. He is still
- getting settled in. This week he is on a business trip, again. That
- guy spends most of his time on the road. He says that work is going
- well. He seems to be enjoying the whole deal. That is good for John.
- I got a call from Derek Roysden the other day. I haven't returned his
- call yet. I am kind of scared too! I'm not sure what to expect. He is
- now in New Mexico. I wonder if they are ready for him? No, I'm sure
- that he is doing good. Derek is like a cat, he always lands on his
- feet. Mark and Lisa are doing good. They are both having fun with the
- new baby. Penny and Greg are good also. The both of them are about the
- same and enjoying Kris. He will be 1 year old in a couple of weeks.
- Man, how time flies. It just seems like yesterday that I was up at
- your place to see Nolan. Wow, I'm starting to feel old. Just for a
- second.
-
- Anyway, that's it from here. I glad that this Internet thing is
- working. This will be alot of fun. I will look forward to hearing from
- you soon. You guys take care and have a good one.
-
- Later,
-
- MIKEY
- MIKE.CONTI@PCAPPBBS.COM
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Jun 1994 01:05:21 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!math.ohio-state.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!vms.csd.mu.edu!2575BROOKSR@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Tech. Question Pool
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I'm looking for the most recent tech. question pool. If anyone
- can provide an electronic copy, or point me to a source
- for them in print, I'd be very appreciative. Also, does
- the tech no code exam include the novice exam?
-
- Thanks for the help,
- 2575brooksr@vms.csd.mu.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 20 Jun 1994 23:14:00 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!kennish@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Transmission Line Impedance: Why so many?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994Jun20.171318.15876@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>,
- Gary Coffman <gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> wrote:
- >In article <2u44fg$l6s@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca>
- >a4q4@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (D.J.Trynor EE) writes:
- >>It seems that there are so many transmission lines impedances (i.e 50, 75,
- >>300 ohms).
- >>Is there a technical reason for this or was it merely a development of
- >>different standards?
- >
- >At least for coax, there are technical reasons. 75 ohm *air line* (actually
- >76.708 ohms) has the lowest loss of any impedance coax. If we replace
- >the air with polyethelene, we have 50 ohm cable (actually 51.02 ohms).
- >That's because the ratio of conductor diameters for lowest loss is 3.59112:1
- >in both cases, the dielectric making the difference in surge impedance.
- >
- >Gary
-
- This must be for some preset inner conductor diameter. When I work
- the loss of the coax (assuming perfect dielectric -- loss only due
- to skin effect), I get:
-
- alpha = R/2Zo
-
- where R = (Rs/2pi)*(1/ro + 1/ri)
- and Zo = (sqrt (mu/epsilon)/2pi)*(ln(ro/ri))
-
- So, for a given inner conductor diameter, there will be a specific
- impedance for minimum loss, but I don't see how that ratio holds
- for all sizes. Is my math messed up? Oh, Rs is the skin effect sheet
- resistance.
-
- -ken
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Jun 1994 00:24:48 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!taco.cc.ncsu.edu!csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu!samodena@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Transmission Line Impedance: Why so many?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2u44fg$l6s@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> a4q4@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (D.J.Trynor EE) writes:
- >It seems that there are so many transmission lines impedances (i.e 50, 75,
- >300 ohms).
- >Is there a technical reason for this or was it merely a development of
- >different standards?
- >
- >Don Trynor VE9NZ
-
- The following is *pure* conjecture.
-
- The ideal dipole over perfect ground at perfect height would have
- an input impedance of 72 ohms. So design some 73 ohm coax for a
- "perfect match. ;^)
-
- Then some clown, like myself, notices that many many *real* dipoles
- on HF have input impedances of 50-55 ohms...so make some 52 ohm
- coax for a match...and, BTW, make 50 ohms the *realistic* standard
- termination for xmtrs.
-
- Then someone notices the need for coax to feed a perfect groundplane...
- 37 ohms (pop quiz: name the designation for that coax). However,
- in reality, one needs one-half of 50 ohms (not one-half of 73 ohms)...
- so make some 25 ohm coax (yes there is)...which turns out to be well
- suited to direct feeding the driven element of the typical HF
- 3-element Yagi.
-
- There is further justification of 73 and 93 ohm coaxes (other than
- being roots of minimization equations)...how about acting as
- quarter wave matching stubs...after all, many antennas have input
- impedances quite far from "50" ohms...and input impedance gives no
- clue to antenna efficiency. ;^)
-
- I understand the need for 450 ohm (or there abouts) twin lead...
- afterall, in the good old days, real hams had voltage fed antennas
- for their *all* frequency capabilities...and real end fed antennas
- are supposed to have feed point impedances of 2,000-5,000 ohms...
- huh, why not twin lead of 2000 ohms? Well that is called open wire
- line...but 450 ohm ladder line is *mechanically* stable, practical
- to manufacture, and close enough for government work.
-
- Well, where did 300 ohm come from?...Early TV and nobody really
- understood what was going on, but 300 ohms made the input stage
- design easier and *cheaper* in the fledgling TV industry....that
- needed as much voltage multiplication as it could get for notoriously
- low gain, high noise, parasitically-oscillating front end triodes.
-
- And then there is the 72 ohm twin lead...but no 50 ohm, because the
- extruding machine must have some slop room if you want a run of
- "good" wire.
-
- Who sez that? I say that!
-
- 73/Steve Modena/AB4EL ab4el@cybernetics.net
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 00:45:39 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!news.dtc.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!icon!greg@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: You know its time to retire from the hobby when....
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- .. you use "Destinated" in a sentence.
-
- Greg. KD6GKW
-
- p.s. I'm already sunk... My daughters have both tried the call sign trick
- on their walkie-talkies.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 20 Jun 1994 15:58:28 -0700
- From: swrinde!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!ssd.intel.com!chnews!ornews.intel.com!ornews.intel.com!@@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2tsecn$b7l@hp-col.col.hp.com>, <2tsu7j$d8i@oak.oakland.edu>, <ke4dpx.6.00069DAF@gregl.slip.iglou.com>um
- Subject : Re: Simplex spacing on 2mtr
-
- In article <ke4dpx.6.00069DAF@gregl.slip.iglou.com> ke4dpx@gregl.slip.iglou.com (Greg Law) writes:
- >In article <2tsu7j$d8i@oak.oakland.edu> prvalko@vela.acs.oakland.edu (prvalko) writes:
-
- >>Not that going to .52 is an evil thing, but I guess I still think of it
- >>as a "calling" channel... even if it's dead most of the time. I think
- >>that if you have invested in a multi-VFO, extened rcv/(tx),
- >>multi-hundred dollar radio... you COULD try something like .55 or .58 or
- >>7.42
-
- >Here in Kentucky it's 15KHz, and I know what you mean about people generally
- >rag-chewing on 146.520. I don't consider it a 'pet peeve' but I do keep in
- >mind that 146.520 is a calling frequency -- make your call, then move on to
- >another frequency.
-
- 146.52 is the "National Simplex" frequency, according to the ARRL Repeater
- Guide and the Operating Manual.
- It is not a calling frequency like 144.200 Mhz is for SSB.
-
- I operate simplex most of the time on 2 meters. If 146.52 was a calling
- frequency then I wouldn't listen to it, wouldn't meet and talk to a
- lotta cool non-repeater people, and wouldn't have near as much fun.
- Nobody listens to Channel 9 on CB for the same reason. If you want help
- you call on the truck driver channel.
- Many years ago the group here in PDX that owns the 146.94 repeater decided
- to make it a "calling only" repeater. A 30 sec. alligator was installed and
- hams were actively discouraged from ragchewing or even chatting.
- The result was that nobody listened to .94 in PDX except a select few who
- enforced the "silence is golden" rule. Out-of-towners who were used to
- finding 146.94 as a popular frequency in other cities would only find silence
- on the PDX .94 machine. 146.94 is the "National Repeater" frequency if you
- look in the guide. It is not a calling freq. A calling frequency is where
- people need to keep it short due to changing band conditions, long range
- propagation effects, and differences in station equipment affecting weak
- signal sensitivity.
- Ham radio is for experimentation first. Let's not adopt methods that promote
- cliquishness.
-
-
- --
- zardoz@ornews.intel.com WA7LDV
-
- ------------------------------
-
- End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #687
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